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137: Never mix psychotic disorders again: Easy points on the PANCE

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Priming Questions

  1. A 23-year-old with hallucinations and social decline for 8 months. What’s the most likely diagnosis?
  2. A man disappears after trauma, later found living under a new name with no memory of his past. What disorder does this suggest?
  3. A student feels detached, like he’s outside his body, but knows it isn’t real. What condition fits best?
  4. A woman has seizure-like episodes with eyes closed and a normal EEG. What’s the most likely diagnosis?

Schizophrenia Spectrum

Definition/Overview

  • Disorders of distorted perception, thought, and behavior
  • Core symptoms: delusions, hallucinations, disorganized speech/behavior, negative symptoms
  • Exist along a time + mood spectrum

Clinical Presentation

  • Positive symptoms: hallucinations (auditory > visual), delusions (persecutory, grandiose), disorganized speech/behavior
  • Negative symptoms: flat affect, anhedonia, avolition, alogia, social withdrawal
  • Cognitive: impaired attention, executive function
  • Onset: late teens to mid-30s; earlier in men

Spectrum Breakdown (time + mood = key)

  • Brief psychotic disorder

    • Duration: <1 month
    • Sudden onset, often stress-related
    • Full recovery is common
  • Schizophreniform

    • Duration: 1–6 months
    • Same symptoms as schizophrenia
    • No functional decline required
    • ~⅓ recover, ~⅔ progress to schizophrenia or schizoaffective
  • Schizophrenia

    • Duration: ≥6 months (≥1 month active symptoms)
    • Requires functional decline (social/occupational)
    • Positive + negative symptoms
    • Chronic, worse prognosis
  • Schizoaffective disorder

    • Meets schizophrenia criteria + mood disorder (major depression or mania)
    • ≥2 weeks psychosis without mood symptoms
    • If psychosis only during mood episode → mood disorder with psychotic features (not schizoaffective)
  • Delusional disorder

    • ≥1 month fixed delusion
    • Functioning not markedly impaired
    • No other psychotic features

Labs, Studies, and Physical Exam Findings

  • Clinical diagnosis (DSM-5 criteria)
  • Labs/imaging to rule out medical/substance causes: CBC, CMP, TSH, urine tox, neuroimaging if focal neuro deficits

Treatment

  • First-line: atypical antipsychotics (risperidone, olanzapine, quetiapine, aripiprazole, ziprasidone)
  • Acute agitation: haloperidol, lorazepam
  • Clozapine: treatment-resistant schizophrenia (monitor CBC → agranulocytosis risk)
  • Psychosocial: CBT, social skills, family therapy
  • Hospitalization if danger to self/others

Schizophrenia Spectrum Timeline

Disorder Duration Key Features Functional Decline Mood Symptoms
Brief psychotic disorder <1 month Sudden onset, stress-related, recovery likely No None
Schizophreniform disorder 1–6 months Same symptoms as schizophrenia Not required None
Schizophrenia ≥6 months (≥1 mo active) Positive + negative symptoms Required None
Schizoaffective disorder ≥6 months Schizophrenia criteria + mood disorder Yes Mood episodes present, but ≥2 weeks psychosis without mood
Delusional disorder ≥1 month Single/fixed delusion Preserved None

Key Differentiators

  • Brief psychotic disorder vs Schizophreniform → <1 mo vs 1–6 mo
  • Schizophreniform vs Schizophrenia → no functional decline vs functional decline
  • Schizophrenia vs Schizoaffective → schizoaffective has mood episodes, but ≥2 weeks psychosis without mood
  • Schizophrenia vs Delusional disorder → broad psychotic symptoms + decline vs single delusion with preserved function

Test Alert

  • Duration is the #1 clue on exams: <1 mo = brief, 1–6 mo = schizophreniform, ≥6 mo = schizophrenia
  • Functional decline must be present for schizophrenia diagnosis
  • Psychosis occurring only during a mood episode = mood disorder w/ psychotic features, not schizoaffective
  • Clozapine is reserved for treatment-resistant schizophrenia (monitor CBC for agranulocytosis)

Dissociative Disorders

Definition/Overview

  • Disruption in consciousness, memory, identity, or perception
  • Often follows trauma or severe stress
  • Main types: Dissociative identity disorder, dissociative amnesia (with or without fugue), depersonalization/derealization disorder

Clinical Presentation

Dissociative Identity Disorder

  • Two or more distinct identities or personality states
  • Gaps in memory (amnesia for everyday events, trauma, or personal information)
  • Often linked to severe, repeated childhood trauma
  • Think: patient “loses time,” finds items they do not remember buying, others notice voice or posture changes
  • Not schizophrenia → no hallucinations or delusions as core features, instead switching identities

Dissociative Amnesia

  • Inability to recall important personal information, usually trauma or stress related
  • Too extensive to be ordinary forgetting
  • Patient is aware they cannot remember (distress, frustration)
  • Dissociative fugue subtype → amnesia with sudden travel or wandering, may assume a new identity
  • Example: person disappears after trauma, later found in another town with no memory of prior life

Depersonalization/Derealization Disorder

  • Depersonalization = detachment from self (“I feel like I am outside my body, watching myself”)
  • Derealization = detachment from surroundings (“the world feels unreal, dreamlike, foggy”)
  • Reality testing remains intact → they know it is a feeling, not a delusion
  • Example: patient says, “I know I am real, but I feel like I am in a movie.”

Labs, Studies, and Physical Exam Findings

  • Clinical diagnosis
  • Must rule out seizures, head injury, intoxication or withdrawal, and medication effects
  • Mental status exam may show memory gaps, identity changes, and intact orientation or reality testing in depersonalization/derealization disorder

Treatment

  • First-line: psychotherapy (trauma-focused therapy, cognitive behavioral therapy, eye movement desensitization and reprocessing, supportive therapy)
  • Medications: no specific drug treatment; address comorbid depression, anxiety, or post-traumatic stress disorder
  • Hospitalization if risk to safety

Key Differentiators

  • Dissociative identity disorder vs Schizophrenia → multiple identities and memory gaps vs hallucinations and delusions
  • Dissociative amnesia vs Normal forgetting → trauma-related, too extensive, inconsistent with ordinary memory loss
  • Depersonalization/derealization disorder vs Psychosis → detachment feelings with insight vs loss of reality testing

Test Alert

  • Dissociative identity disorder is strongly linked to severe childhood trauma
  • Dissociative fugue = amnesia with travel
  • Depersonalization/derealization disorder = patients recognize the experience is unreal

Psychogenic Nonepileptic Seizure

Definition/Overview

  • Episodes that resemble epileptic seizures but occur without abnormal electrical brain activity
  • Classified as a functional neurological symptom disorder (conversion disorder)
  • Caused by psychological factors, often stress, trauma, or psychiatric comorbidity

Clinical Presentation

  • Convulsive-like episodes with features atypical for epilepsy:
    • Asynchronous or thrashing limb movements
    • Eyes closed during episode (in true seizures, eyes are usually open)
    • Prolonged duration, fluctuating course
    • Lack of postictal confusion
  • Often occur in stressful situations or in the presence of others
  • Strong association with history of trauma, abuse, depression, anxiety, or dissociation

Labs, Studies, and Physical Exam Findings

  • Gold standard: Video electroencephalogram (EEG) monitoring during an event → shows normal brain activity despite convulsions
  • Routine labs and imaging normal
  • Important clinical point: may coexist with true epilepsy, so both must be considered

Treatment

  • First-line: psychotherapy (cognitive behavioral therapy, trauma-focused therapy, supportive therapy)
  • Treat comorbid psychiatric conditions such as depression, anxiety, or post-traumatic stress disorder
  • Avoid unnecessary antiepileptic drugs (ineffective and potentially harmful)
  • Best managed with collaboration between neurology and psychiatry/psychology

Key Differentiators

  • Psychogenic nonepileptic seizure vs Epileptic seizure → normal EEG during event in psychogenic nonepileptic seizure
  • Psychogenic nonepileptic seizure vs Syncope → psychogenic nonepileptic seizure has prolonged, irregular movements; syncope is brief with sudden loss of tone
  • Psychogenic nonepileptic seizure vs Panic attack → psychogenic nonepileptic seizure = seizure-like motor activity; panic attack = autonomic symptoms (palpitations, sweating, tremor, shortness of breath)

Test Alert

  • Diagnosis requires video EEG with no epileptiform activity
  • Do not use antiepileptic medications unless epilepsy is proven
  • Strong association with psychological stress and trauma
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